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- #41
- SomeGuyNamedBob
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Apr 5th, 2020 11:11 pm
Last time I compared 1password to lastpass it seemed 1password was lacking in features and was over priced. Lastpass can automatically update your passwords on websites when they get stale. Does 1password have a password audit? To show you where your passwords are old/weak. Also it seemed that 1password couldn't do group password sharing for family members on the free plan, which lastpass can. I think laspass is the perfect balance of free features for most people/families. And lastpass has a good track record of responding to bug/security problems. They're the most popular password manager out there (other than the default ones that ship with IE/Chrome), so they've been battle hardened over the years of relentless attacks
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- SomeGuyNamedBob
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Apr 5th, 2020 11:19 pm
Just checked the pricing of lastpass vs 1password and it seems the above is still valid. Lastpass free should be plenty for most people. You get a few extra features by paying, but 99% of the most important features are free. The free version is even great for families of size 2 (i.e. couples). If your family is bigger than 2 then you have to pay (same price as 1password)
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- rcxAsh
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Apr 5th, 2020 11:49 pm
kesleaf wrote: ↑What’s the use of these companies?
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In my view, password manager applications/services like 1Password and several of the others mentioned by other posters in this thread are intended to make it practical for the average person to use both strong and different passwords for every online account.
It is a security risk to use the same password for all your accounts because if one service has a data breach (or you fall victim to a phishing attack for one service) and your password is revealed, then an attacker immediately has access to all your other accounts since they all use the same password. If you have a different password for every account, this is not an issue any more. However, it is somewhat unreasonable to have someone remember a different password for every account these days since we have so many accounts. So people tend to either repeat the same password, use some weak variation of the same password, or use the same few passwords for related accounts, etc.
A password manager provides a secure method to store all your passwords so that you only have to remember the password for the password manager. The safety of your password manager also assumes that you use a strong and unique password for your password manager and that you have never and will never use that password for other accounts.
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- HoTiCE_
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Apr 6th, 2020 10:40 am
Has anyone migrated from the legacy perpetual 1Password product to this new version? Is there a one time one-way only conversion that is done? How smooth was it
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- Chewiee
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Apr 6th, 2020 10:44 am
keddie2 wrote: ↑I think Kyle has hired a few guys since then but understandably, he is def a single point of failure in this context. It does help that the app is open source and you could also possibly host it yourself but who has time for this these days.
Worst case scenario just export everything and purge your vault(s) before something happens to the service.
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- kesleaf
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Apr 7th, 2020 1:06 pm
rcxAsh wrote: ↑In my view, password manager applications/services like 1Password and several of the others mentioned by other posters in this thread are intended to make it practical for the average person to use both strong and different passwords for every online account.
It is a security risk to use the same password for all your accounts because if one service has a data breach (or you fall victim to a phishing attack for one service) and your password is revealed, then an attacker immediately has access to all your other accounts since they all use the same password. If you have a different password for every account, this is not an issue any more. However, it is somewhat unreasonable to have someone remember a different password for every account these days since we have so many accounts. So people tend to either repeat the same password, use some weak variation of the same password, or use the same few passwords for related accounts, etc.
A password manager provides a secure method to store all your passwords so that you only have to remember the password for the password manager. The safety of your password manager also assumes that you use a strong and unique password for your password manager and that you have never and will never use that password for other accounts.
But how can you ensure these password managers won't be hacked?
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- Majokito
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Apr 7th, 2020 1:22 pm
kesleaf wrote: ↑But how can you ensure these password managers won't be hacked?
Ideally you would secure it with a hardware key like Yubikey or something. Or at least an authenticator app. If you only use a password to secure your account that holds all your passwords, that's just silly.
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- Dave98
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Apr 7th, 2020 1:27 pm
kesleaf wrote: ↑But how can you ensure these password managers won't be hacked?
Use a trusted service that has been audited and functions properly.
On a properly managed password manager service, everything is encrypted client side. This means the security of your data is dependent on the strength of your master password and possibly other mitigations such as using two factor authentication.
so think of a password manager service as basically just a service that handles a bunch of locked boxes to which, only the customer has the key to. Even if a hacker got into the building, they still have to be able to get into the locked boxes.
that's a pretty simplistic way of looking at it but yeah
and if you still don't trust them then there are already mentioned alternatives like KeePass which don't require the use of cloud sync so your database stays where you want it
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- pr3dat0r
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Apr 7th, 2020 1:32 pm
I'm using Bitwarden, and Self hosted with Let's encrpt on my Synology NAS
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- fpenguin
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Apr 16th, 2020 11:16 pm
Have you guys come across any password manager with which you can pre-program specific websites to be opened at a specific time (eg. a.com/b.com/c.com at 9am on the 1st day of every month) and log in automatically?
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- Dave510
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Apr 16th, 2020 11:42 pm
max011 wrote: ↑This free... again... and again...???
They obviously are not doin' good...
It's not free, it's free for new users, and this is actually a brilliant way to get new customers. Their product actually has a strong lock in effect. Once you have a year's worth of password stored inside and got used to using it, most users are not going to want to go through the hassle of switching, so I imagine their user retention is one of the highest in subscription services.
Also, if I have all my passwords and bank info locked into a single program, I'm definitely not going to try to cut corners just to save a few bucks. 1password is much more secure than LassPass in that regard.
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- Polarbear92
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Apr 17th, 2020 12:25 am
Apple is coming up with similar feature in iOS 14 for those who are interested or looking to extend their plan.
For some reason, I just trust with privacy more than any other company. They have proven again and again to be trusted.
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Apr 17th, 2020 12:44 am
I like Bitwarden as well. No need to worry about subscription.
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- max011
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Apr 17th, 2020 1:13 am
Dave510 wrote: ↑It's not free, it's free for new users, and this is actually a brilliant way to get new customers. Their product actually has a strong lock in effect. Once you have a year's worth of password stored inside and got used to using it, most users are not going to want to go through the hassle of switching, so I imagine their user retention is one of the highest in subscription services.
Also, if I have all my passwords and bank info locked into a single program, I'm definitely not going to try to cut corners just to save a few bucks. 1password is much more secure than LassPass in that regard.
Yeah... maybe...
I'm keeping it all at home... Not to comfy to use, but only in KeePass I trust...
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- petrek
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Apr 17th, 2020 1:50 am
keddie2 wrote: ↑Might be for new accounts only; created a test account and it says 366 days, no credit card was asked for either.
I've stopped using them a while ago when they shifted their business model and made old version obsolete with new browsers. Others might want to try bitwarden which is free or $10/yr for premium or $1/mo for families. Personally, I am using KeepassXC these days for cross platform compatibility with KeePass databases.
If you are on a Mac, you should still be able to use a standalone version as that is what I am using on my MacPro running High Sierra. I did have to contact them at the time because I didn't see on the website the option to continue using the non cloud standalone version, but I was able to purchase the updated version of stand alone software for I think $40. No monthly or yearly renewal fees for me.
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- sterdeus
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Feb 20th, 2021 6:51 pm
I signed up for this and the 1 year free is winding down and almost time to start paying. What's everyone's consensus -- Who is staying with 1password and paying? I see that LastPass now has restrictions on their free plan. KeePass and BitWarden seem like viable options.
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- AHCanada
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Feb 21st, 2021 10:15 am
sterdeus wrote: ↑I signed up for this and the 1 year free is winding down and almost time to start paying. What's everyone's consensus -- Who is staying with 1password and paying? I see that LastPass now has restrictions on their free plan. KeePass and BitWarden seem like viable options.
I've been loving 1password and plan to start paying. I'm interested what others have to say though.
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- rvs007
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Mar 1st, 2021 9:07 pm
sterdeus wrote: ↑I signed up for this and the 1 year free is winding down and almost time to start paying. What's everyone's consensus -- Who is staying with 1password and paying? I see that LastPass now has restrictions on their free plan. KeePass and BitWarden seem like viable options.
I've switched from 1Password to Myki (https://myki.com/) and it's been great. It's free and passwords are stored locally and not in any cloud.
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