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DNA3000 Posts: 18,783 Guardian
4:41AM
phillgreen said:
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Skyfaw said:
Grinding arena for units is always puzzling to me. I’m glad that it’s an option for those who are willing to make the grind but mathematically it just a waste of time.
If you’re grinding 2hrs everyday 6 times a week that = 624 hrs a year. If you had a side hustle idk maybe you doordash or something and make $15 per hr profit. That’s $9360 you made instead of doing arena. 85,280 units is roughly 12 Namor = $2880 with tax estimate. You still have $6480 still left over to do as you wish.
I will never understand people who grind arena religiously.
If I can deliver your dinner, in my underpants and half drunk while watching sports, I will sign up for doordash tomorrow and use the profits to buy more beer.
Just because we can do a thing, doesn’t mean we should do a thing. And I’m not just talking about DoorDash, I’m talking about placing this image into my brain.
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Nightheart Posts: 1,004 ★★★
4:49AM
Thanks @DNA3000
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JessieS Posts: 1,401 ★★★★
4:54AM
A lot of people believe that gambling addiction means losing real world money in classical gambling games like a casino , spiders betting and so on but it’s not . Gambling is about unhealthy obsession that consumes your life and mobile games absolutely count . Games are meant to be enjoyed casually . If you bosses to this degree daily you have a problem and you need to seek help . Yes I know this will be an unpopular post and trigger a lot of people but it’s true
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DNA3000 Posts: 18,783 Guardian
5:38AM
JessieS said:
A lot of people believe that gambling addiction means losing real world money in classical gambling games like a casino , spiders betting and so on but it’s not . Gambling is about unhealthy obsession that consumes your life and mobile games absolutely count . Games are meant to be enjoyed casually . If you bosses to this degree daily you have a problem and you need to seek help . Yes I know this will be an unpopular post and trigger a lot of people but it’s true
1. Dr. Jessie, you appear to have conflated gambling with addiction.
2. “Games are meant to be enjoyed casually” is less of a statement of fact, and more of a well, actually that’s completely false. Whether any particular game is enjoyed casually or in a more involved manner is a personal choice for which you should not be pronouncing a medical judgment, or they might pull your license.
3. I’m not the one with a spider-boss problem.
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Mattstafari Posts: 689 ★★★
6:24AM
1 hour 40.mins is a lot of time for me, I'm not going to be able to invest that.
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JessieS Posts: 1,401 ★★★★
8:13AM
DNA3000 said:
JessieS said:
A lot of people believe that gambling addiction means losing real world money in classical gambling games like a casino , spiders betting and so on but it’s not . Gambling is about unhealthy obsession that consumes your life and mobile games absolutely count . Games are meant to be enjoyed casually . If you bosses to this degree daily you have a problem and you need to seek help . Yes I know this will be an unpopular post and trigger a lot of people but it’s true
1. Dr. Jessie, you appear to have conflated gambling with addiction.
2. “Games are meant to be enjoyed casually” is less of a statement of fact, and more of a well, actually that’s completely false. Whether any particular game is enjoyed casually or in a more involved manner is a personal choice for which you should not be pronouncing a medical judgment, or they might pull your license.
3. I’m not the one with a spider-boss problem.
1. Hence the phrase gambling addiction
2. It’s a fact . Just like the fact that corporation are trying to twist them into addictions by encouraging obsessive and unhealthy behavior all to squeeze out more profits
3. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean but anyway back to my actual point . Obsessively playing games is not healthy for anyone no matter how many people try to normalise it . I strongly encourage people who have this problem to seek help
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phillgreen Posts: 3,749 ★★★★★
8:31AM edited 8:32AM
DNA3000 said:
phillgreen said:
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Skyfaw said:
Grinding arena for units is always puzzling to me. I’m glad that it’s an option for those who are willing to make the grind but mathematically it just a waste of time.
If you’re grinding 2hrs everyday 6 times a week that = 624 hrs a year. If you had a side hustle idk maybe you doordash or something and make $15 per hr profit. That’s $9360 you made instead of doing arena. 85,280 units is roughly 12 Namor = $2880 with tax estimate. You still have $6480 still left over to do as you wish.
I will never understand people who grind arena religiously.
If I can deliver your dinner, in my underpants and half drunk while watching sports, I will sign up for doordash tomorrow and use the profits to buy more beer.
Just because we can do a thing, doesn’t mean we should do a thing. And I’m not just talking about DoorDash, I’m talking about placing this image into my brain.
Hey man, I did the best I could to make it PG13 by pretending to wear underpants.
Real SMS sent to me yesterday:
Her: "Hey, my mum is coming over when the kids get home from school"
Me: "Thats cool, but we are going to football training at 4:30"
Her: "I know that, I just wanted to make sure you're wearing pants"
Apparently, underpants are not actual pants...
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phillgreen Posts: 3,749 ★★★★★
8:44AM
And to try to lift my posts from very low brow to regular level brow (for me anyway)
I really only do 12m in the featured and still stay unit positive. Explored necropolis in Jan, explored 8.4 a couple of weeks after it dropped and explore TB/paragon EQ every month.
Unit requirements reduce as a roster gets bigger. I remember needing to grind 100 rounds for a couple of T4B, now that was a chore that made pants almost palatable*
*I tried to be good, I really did.
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DNA3000 Posts: 18,783 Guardian
9:35AM
Mattstafari said:
1 hour 40.mins is a lot of time for me, I'm not going to be able to invest that.
There’s a joke where someone is riding in a car their friend is driving, and he notices his friend is speeding at over 90 miles per hour. He tells his friend “isn’t 90 miles per hour a bit fast?” And his friend says “not really, I don’t plan on driving for that long.”
No one says you have to grind the arena for two hours a day, or one hour a day, or even every day at all. The numbers tell you what you can get for how much time. It’s up to you to decide if, and if so how much time to spend. But at least it will be an informed decision, and not based on the complaints floating around about how it takes “non-stop” grinding to get any reasonable rewards from the arena.
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SammyDe Posts: 912 ★★★
12:18PM
I grind quite a bit myself and to me, spending time here means I am not spending money on real life stuff. Sure, I buy some stuff every now and then but this is more trying to pay for the enjoyment I had from this game.
I noticed the arena gig is getting harder as I face more difficult defenders even after the 25 streak threshold. I think I broke my streak twice this year already which is not great. On the other hand, I get to practice with Kindred, Onslaught, Bullseye, Serpent and all the wonderful new champs in arena as well.
As for average time per fight, I also notice this has gone up in recent months since we get more annoying defenders like red skull, IMIW and abs man which take more like a minute to clear.
One final note, arena is only taking time and can be addictive but it is nowhere near the devastating gambling addiction where you can bet your house away in one click.1
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allinashes Posts: 806 ★★★
4:48PM
Hi guys, I'm that dude that actually enjoys arena... Nice to meetcha. Is it cold 🍺, hot 🍕, or fast car enjoyable? Nah, but it's a fun lil, stress-free, time waster. I play early morn before gym while I drink my coffee and watch YouTube and on my lunch break while I read or chat with my bud.
I'll do another ten mins here or there on a break sometimes, but it's already basically enough time to hit most of the milestones. I like watching the units pile up and have 26k units and 8.5m BC after spending 5,700 units on Omega event.
If I don't feel like playing, I skip it, but I'm not doing DoorDash as a second job on my lunch break from my first job 😂 If I had to find time to play in the evening or at some other point, I'd be much less likely to do it regularly.
I'm not poor, also not rich, and I have bought my share of units in the past, and could continue to do so, but don't see the point when my casual play gets me plenty. Where I could see myself spending again in the future is holiday sales where lots of goodies are included with the units, but I'll be paying for the goodies with units as a lil bonus.
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